Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:27): As we've discussed a number of times in this chamber, there are responsibilities of varying parties with respect to who controls what particular matters. As I've said before in the chamber, the responsibility for the public health response to a COVID-19 aged-care outbreak lies with the state government. That information is actually confirmed in the agreement we have published on the New South Wales health department's website, and on ours—that the public health response lies with the New South Wales government. Aged-care providers are all required to have an infection control management plan— The PRESIDENT: Senator McAllister on a point of order. Senator McAllister: My point of order goes to relevance. I asked why there was a failure to plan. So far I've heard about a public health response. Mr President, I would ask you to ask the minister to return to the question. The PRESIDENT: I'm listening carefully to the minister. That was the end of the question, and I appreciate that the preamble was quite narrow. I'm unwilling to go to the exact terminology a minister uses to rule on direct relevance, whether it be a response or a plan. I'll continue to listen carefully. Senator COLBECK: The COVID-19 National Health Plan, which was released early in March, contemplates a range of health responses, including for those in residential aged care, and is supported by the Communicable Diseases Network Australia guidelines, which provide advice to residential aged-care providers on how they will establish themselves to manage a COVID-19 outbreak. All of these things are considered. So our plan, backed up by the COVID-19 National Health Plan, which was launched in March of this year, supported by the CDNA guidelines, contemplates the cooperation between state and Commonwealth in the management and the public health management of a COVID-19 outbreak, and that's exactly what occurred at Newmarch House. The PRESIDENT: Senator McAllister, a supplementary question?