Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:04): What I don't do is accept it as a reasonable measure. It is a fact. As it was— An opposition senator interjecting— Senator COLBECK: I'll take the interjection. It was actually evidence given to the royal commission; it wasn't the royal commission saying that. As I said, the fatalities as a proportion of the aged-care beds in Australia amount to about 0.1 per cent—0.17 per cent—of the aged-care beds in this country. In the UK, it's 5.3, which is over 30 times worse than Australia. While every single death in this pandemic is a tragedy, in seven out of eight states we don't have a case in residential aged care. Unfortunately, in Victoria, where we have uncontrolled community spread, the virus has inevitably got into residential aged care. That is what happens. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Walsh, a final supplementary question?