Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:09): To the Leader of the Opposition, I know when you are so engaged in the politics of fearmongering you have to suspend any engagement with the facts. But no amount of fearmongering by the Leader of the Opposition, no amount of playing this kind of despicable politics, will change the facts. I have been through the facts once in the House today but I suggest to the Leader of the Opposition that instead of just reading the next question he actually stops for a moment, takes a breath and listens to what I have to say. The SPEAKER: Order! The member for Mackellar is warned. Question time is actually a time to listen to answers. The Prime Minister has the call. Ms GILLARD: There we have it. The responsible approach of the opposition on display! If you say the word 'facts', they say the word 'never' because they know if they absorb the facts that it undercuts their claims. Let the Leader of the Opposition listen to this. Mr Frydenberg: Madam Speaker, on a point of order— Ms Macklin interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The Minister for Community and Family Affairs is not assisting and is warned. I will not take gratuitous advice any longer from anybody. Mr Frydenberg: I have a serious point. The Prime Minister has misled the House. She has said to the House that the ASIO budget has increased, that the ASIO report, page 9— The SPEAKER: The member for Kooyong will resume his seat. There are other forms of the House in which to raise that concern. The Prime Minister has the call and will be heard in silence. Ms GILLARD: The facts are the facts and the facts are these: government funding has increased for ASIO from $291 million in 2007-08 to $369 million in 2013-14. This represents a funding increase of 27 per cent, a fact. Opposition members interjecting— Ms GILLARD: Over the same period, the average staffing levels—for those who are yelling, and I know the facts do not suit you but these are the facts—have increased by 32 per cent. They are the facts. The Leader of the Opposition should stop misrepresenting them and this despicable— (Time expired)