Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:38): There are a range of issues to address in that question, but the most important one, I think, relates more broadly at a national level to use of language. We have to speak, write and report more accurately and empathetically about domestic violence. It's a matter that Senator Ruston and I raised in our statement last week. We have to think more carefully about our expectations of healthy, respectful relationships. As I said in answer to Senator Askew's question earlier in question time, language does matter. It does matter— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Waters, on a point of order? Senator Waters: Yes. Thank you, President. It's relevance. We know language matters. My question was on whether you were going to remove Senator Hanson as deputy chair of the family law inquiry. The PRESIDENT: Senator Waters, that was part of your question. The minister is being directly relevant to another part of your question. Senator Payne, continue. Senator PAYNE: Thank you very much. Just to conclude, I said it in my response to Senator Askew, we cannot tolerate public language that trivialises or distorts the reality of domestic violence. Each murder, each act of domestic violence, is an individual atrocity.