Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:04): There are a number of documents that relate to this particular program. I haven't seen all of them. I don't know which particular document— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! One of your colleagues is on their feet seeking to raise a point of order. Senator Wong: Did you get it in the IGB— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, order! Senator Reynolds: I did not say that. The PRESIDENT: Order! I didn't hear the first part. I heard one word. I will ask Senator Wong: if she feels that there was a reflection on a senator, she can withdraw it. Senator Wong: I withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. Senator Farrell, on a point of order? Senator Wong: Does it say the program was corrupt? The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, Senator Farrell is on a point of order. Senator Wong interjecting— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: It's going to be a long question time if Senator Farrell can't get to his point of order. Senator Wong! On my right! Senator Farrell, on a point of order? Senator Farrell: On relevance: it was a simple question, a straightforward question, and the minister knows exactly the document we're talking about. Senator Rennick: A point of order. Opposition senators interj ecting— The PRESIDENT: Is it on this point of order or another one? Order on my left, please! Senator Green interjecting— Senator Polley interjecting— Senator Watt: It shows us where you priorities are— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senators Green and Polley! Senator Watt! Is it on this point of order or a different one, Senator Rennick? Senator Rennick: It's to do with the process of spending government money. The PRESIDENT: Senator Rennick, that's a matter for debate. I'm going to rule on this point of order from Senator Farrell. On the second point you raised, Senator Farrell, I can't peer into the minister's mind and know what he knows or your assertion about that. I was listening very carefully to the minister's answer. It was, indeed, a very specific question. I believe the minister was talking about 'documents related to the program'—a phrase I think I heard him use. I'm listening very carefully, but I do believe the track he is on at the moment is directly relevant, but, I remind: it was a very specific question. Senator COLBECK: As I said, there are a range of documents that relate to this program. And I have to say, if Senator Farrell is talking about the document that was in the possession of the ABC, I haven't seen that document, because the ABC hasn't published it. I have seen excerpts of the document as published by the ABC, but I have not seen the document that the ABC has. I haven't seen that document. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator Farrell, a final supplementary question?