Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:00): Thank you, Senator Farrell, for the question. It gives me a very good opportunity to extol the virtues of a program that's provided important support to communities across Australia. It's provided support to 684 grant recipients for facilities that they wouldn't have if Senator McKenzie had not made— The PRESIDENT: Senator Farrell, on a point of order. Senator Farrell: Direct relevance—I've asked a specific question: has the minister seen the spreadsheet? The PRESIDENT: Senator Farrell, the specific question that you point out was proceeded by a substantial number of assertions. I believe the minister is being directly relevant by using the opportunity to address those assertions, as he is entitled to do. I've allowed you to restate that part of the question. Senator Colbeck, continue. Senator COLBECK: As I said, this program will provide sporting facilities across Australia to 684 grant recipients that desperately need those projects. It's not a surprise that there was such strong demand for this. Over 2,000 applications were received, and almost a third of them were able to be funded by the decisions that Senator McKenzie made in that program. There was very, very strong demand, and I'm sure that, as we work towards opportunities in the future, there will be future— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Wong: Mr President, I accepted your first ruling because I recognised there was a preamble— Senator Abetz interjecting— Senator Wong: Good to see you too, Eric; we can talk about that too! We recognise there was some preamble. This is a matter of great public importance. This is a matter that is well known to the public and to the media. We're asking a simple question of whether this minister, who took over from Senator McKenzie, has seen the colour-coded spreadsheet. The PRESIDENT: I'll take Senator Cormann on the point of order. Senator Cormann: Mr President, as you already noted in your previous ruling, the question included a number of assertions—false assertions, we would submit—which the minister, in a directly relevant fashion, is explaining. For example, the first assertion is about favouring marginal seats, when the Auditor-General's report clearly shows that the proportion of Labor seats under Senator McKenzie's decisions increased compared to the Sports Australia decisions. The PRESIDENT: It's our first question time; it's not even five past two. On the point of order, I can't instruct a minister how to answer a question, as long as the minister is directly relevant to a question, or to part of a question. I cannot instruct him to answer a preferred part of a question. Senator Cormann, you got into a bit of debate there; I'm sure the minister is able to do that. Senator Colbeck, continue. Senator COLBECK: Thank you, Mr President. Can I join with Minister Cormann in absolutely rejecting the assertions made by Senator Farrell about the program. The Auditor-General made a number of recommendations with respect to this particular program, which the government has responded to. I'm very pleased with the work that Sport Australia has already done to address the issues that the Auditor specifically made with respect to the program. There were four recommendations in the report. The government initially noted the fourth recommendation, which was specifically relating back to government, and the other three were acted on and initiated. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Farrell, a supplementary question?