Senator LAMBIE (Tasmania) (14:44): Stories like this one show that the DVA and Defence are not looking after our veterans who are vulnerable. The Minister for Veterans' Affairs won't commit to holding a royal commission, so I have to ask this, as one woman who served to another: you were a brigadier. Both Defence and DVA have diggers under them who are actually hurting a lot and not getting their claims through the Department of Veterans' Affairs. I want to know why the top brass—it used to be the 'top brass'—in our military are not standing by their former diggers and asking for a royal commission?