Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Agriculture and Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (14:03): Senator McCarthy, the National Party, both Senator McDonald and myself, Barnaby Joyce, Wacka Williams, Barry O'Sullivan, Matt Canavan—I could go through a raft of National Party MPs and senators over the eight years I've been here, and none of us have taken a backwards step when it comes to holding the duopoly of Coles and Woolworths in this country to account, not just for our dairy farmers but for our horticulture farmers, the beef industry and the like. They've been ripping off our farmers over time because of their excessive market power— The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt, on a point of order? Senator Watt: On relevance—the question was seeking an answer as to whether the minister was consulted about the letter. The PRESIDENT: I might also say that the question contained other elements which I might refer to more broadly as commentary. I think the minister is entitled to be directly relevant and respond to that as well. Senator McKENZIE: My point is that, as a political party, we talk all the time about how we hold the supermarkets to account with what they're actually paying our producers. Senator McDonald and I have been in conversations about that. Senator Canavan and I have been in conversations about that. A raft of National Party MPs and senators are actively engaged in working out how we can better evolve competition laws in this country. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator McCarthy, a final supplementary question?