Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:55): As I indicated to the chamber yesterday, every project that was approved by Minister McKenzie, under her then responsibilities as Minister for Sport, qualified under the guidelines of the program that was being run—every project. Senator Watt: But they weren't recommended. Senator Wong: They weren't recommended; that's what the evidence said. The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator COLBECK: And as the delegate— Senator Wong: Very careful use of language—why are you ducking? The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator COLBECK: As the delegate responsible for approval of projects under that program, Minister McKenzie had the responsibility to approve every project that she approved. That was the role. As the minister with delegation to approve those projects, that was the role that she undertook, quite reasonably and quite rightly. It was Minister McKenzie's decision to approve the projects. That was her responsibility under the— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Farrell, on a point of order. Senator Colbeck, please resume your seat. Senator Farrell: I've given the minister more than a minute to answer the question. We're talking about the grants that were not recommended by Sport Australia which the minister approved. The PRESIDENT: You've highlighted that part of the question. As long as the minister is talking about the approval of projects, I am going to rule it directly relevant and remind senators of the opportunity to debate the merits of answers after question time. Senator COLBECK: It doesn't matter whether the opposition likes it or not, the responsibility for the approval of every project under the program was the responsibility of Minister McKenzie in her role at the time. That was her role and, as I have said a number of times today and yesterday, a minister has that responsibility, takes that responsibility, uses that responsibility when they sign off on contracts or projects under any program. As I've said before, every single project approved under that program met the guidelines for the program. The PRESIDENT: Senator Farrell, a supplementary question?