Senator DI NATALE (Victoria—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:24): Benjamin Huie evacuated his house at Great Mackerel Beach. He describes himself as a conservative, actually, but he said that the bushfires are encouraged by climate change. Indeed, he said, 'A conservative would want to be sure, would want to be safe, and would want to take action before it happens so you're not just lying back and going, "Oh, here it all comes."' Minister, do you accept that it's time to take action on climate change, which means having a plan to phase out coal, oil and gas and replace them with renewable energy? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left and right.