Senator DI NATALE (Victoria—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:18): Well, Minister, let's talk about the firefighters who have said that you don't find a climate change denier at the end of a firehose. Firefighters are very clear about this. I want to know: do you agree—and you still haven't answered the question—with your cabinet colleagues who deny a link between humans causing climate change and climate change resulting in bushfires, or do you agree with firefighters? In the words of the Prime Minister, whose side are you on?