Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business) (14:42): I obviously completely reject the premise of the question, but it has now given me an opportunity to spend the next 55 seconds talking about how on this side of the chamber we cleaned up the mess created by the former Labor government when it came to vocational education within Australia. When, I think, the former Leader of the Opposition, Mr Shorten, was the relevant minister, he actually ripped the guts— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Watt, on a point of order? Senator Watt: It is on relevance. As much as we enjoy Senator Cash in full flight, she hasn't answered the question, which is why anyone should have confidence in her. The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt, if you ask a question phrased like that, it is relatively easy for a minister to be directly relevant to it. Senator CASH: As I was saying, under the former Labor government, they actually ripped the guts out of the employer incentives when it came to taking on apprentices. That actually resulted in a decline in the number of young people going into apprentices. But they didn't stop there, colleagues. That wasn't good enough. They wanted to destroy the sector even further. And so they introduce a system—a total complete and utter disaster—known as VET FEE-HELP. Yet again we came into office and cleaned up their mess, so Australians can have confidence in those of us on this side of the chamber.