Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:17): Thank you again, Senator Di Natale. Australia does have a very strong record meeting our emissions targets. We have overachieved on our first Kyoto target and are now on track to achieve on our second. The Kyoto protocol established the concept of carryover to encourage countries to overachieve. The Paris agreement does not refer to the use of carryover, and we will know closer to 2030 whether the overachievement will be needed at all. The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallacher, on a point of order. Senator Gallacher: Mr President, you've given instructions about relevance of points of order. I take it as standing order 187 and question how a prepared speech can be read in answer to a question without notice. The PRESIDENT: I understand, to be fair, ministers are known to use briefs to answer questions. I might also make the observation that section 187 has been observed far more in breach than in its observance in my 10 years in the chamber. Even if people think it should be enforced, it hasn't been. But ministers use briefs in answering questions. I call the minister to continue. Senator REYNOLDS: Thank you very much, Mr President. I was directly relevant. It was asking about Kyoto and carryover, and I was absolutely directly relevant to the question. But Australia will use its overachievement against previous targets to the extent that it's necessary for us to do so. This overachievement reflects meaningful action by Australia to meet our successive targets and is underpinned by rigorous emissions monitoring and accountability systems. By rejecting Kyoto carryover targets before the election, Labor proposed to dramatically increase the cost of meeting its target. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Di Natale, a final supplementary question.