Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:33): As I said to the answer to your previous question, the views that have been expressed in the comments that you've made and the comments that have been quoted in this place are absolutely unacceptable. However, the best way for us to confront these absolutely unacceptable views is to call them out, and the way to call them out is to call them out publicly. It is not by limiting conversation. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Sorry, Senator Ruston. Please resume your seat. I can't hear the minister. It also means I can't rule on a point of order. If I can't hear it means there are 74 others who probably can't hear it either. Senator RUSTON: As I said, the best way to call out the completely unacceptable views that have been expressed in the questions of those opposite yesterday and today that have been attributed—they're absolutely unacceptable views—is to call them out publicly. And this is not by limiting debate. You need to call them out publicly. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cormann, on a point of order. Senator Cormann: Senator Wong continues to be disorderly. It was Senator Wong who campaigned to make Mark Latham Prime Minister, who's also attending that conference. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When I can hear Senator Wong, I will call her. Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Wong: I was responding to interjections from Senator Stoker. I will always stand against racism, unlike her. The PRESIDENT: I'm going to specifically ask leaders to be particularly strict on the point of orders, to lead by example.