Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:52): Obviously all Australians—employers, employees and unions—need to comply with the law. Later this week in the House of Representatives, and then at some point in the Senate, all senators will have an opportunity to ensure that everyone is required to comply with the law, and that is particularly important on building sites. In relation to Mr Hanssen, obviously the same would apply to him as well. I'm aware of the report on the weekend. I'm also aware that Mr Hanssen has made clear that he has stopped donating to the Liberal and National parties because 'in principle they were not listening to me'—that's a quotation from him. But Labor is quite dishonestly seeking to conflate issues here, to compare the actions of Gerry Hanssen with the actions of John Setka in order to relieve pressure on themselves for their failure to remove him from the Labor Party. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong on a point of order. Senator Wong: This is a question that relates to a fine in relation to a circumstance where a worker tragically died. And it would I think be an appropriate thing if the minister treated the question with a level of seriousness, given the seriousness of the subject matter. The PRESIDENT: You've reminded the minister of the nature of the question. Senator CORMANN: Appropriately, Mr Hanssen was subject to court proceedings, and the law of the land has applied to him. But the law of the land should be applied to all actors in this space, without fear or favour. That is entirely appropriate. The PRESIDENT: Senator Pratt, a supplementary question.