Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:00): I thank the senator for his question. First of all, can I say that nobody is saying that it would be easy to live on Newstart. That's why the coalition's policy in relation to Newstart is one that has been entirely focused on job creation and creating pathways to a job. The one thing that this government will absolutely commit to, to anybody who is on Newstart and anybody who has not got a job, that we will, as a government, work our absolute hardest— The PRESIDENT: On a point of order, Senator Watt. Senator Watt: On relevance. The question was very simple: could the minister live on $40 a day? The PRESIDENT: You've reminded the minister of the question. I remind ministers they must be directly relevant, which is a tighter test than previously existed with just the word 'relevant'. I'm listening very carefully to the minister—I know you are, too, Senator Watt. I call the minister to continue. Senator RUSTON: No-one has ever said that it would be easy to live without a job. But that is why this government is so focused on job creation, but not just job creation. Our track record on job creation stands for itself: 1.3 million jobs in the last term of this government, and a plan to create another 1.25 million into the future. But we are also creating the pathways so that people who are looking for a job will be able to access the jobs that are created. Through my colleague, the Minister for Employment, Minister Cash, and through her jobactive services, and also through my area of Disability Employment Services—and last week I explained some of the fantastic things that we're doing with disability employment—this government is absolutely focused on creating jobs and creating pathways to jobs so that— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Watt on a point of order. Senator Watt: On relevance. The question is very simple and the minister is going nowhere near it: could the minister live on $40 a day—yes, no, maybe? We haven't gone anywhere near it. The PRESIDENT: On that point, I cannot instruct a minister how to answer a question. The question was quite specific and it is difficult to rule material extraneous to such an answer, but I do call the minister and say that direct relevance is a stricter test than relevance, and there has been some time for context, so I ask the minister to turn to the question. But I remind senators I cannot instruct a minister how to answer a question, and that includes whether a one-word answer would be appropriate. Senator RUSTON: I will reiterate: no-one has ever said it would be easy to live without a job. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres, a supplementary question.