Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs) (14:22): If I can make it clear again, as I have previously to the senator, these issues are regularly discussed between Australia and Japan. Australia is well aware, as I said in my previous remarks, of our strong opposition to commercial whaling, to so-called scientific whaling as well as to their latest proposals to recommence commercial whaling through changed voting regimes or the establishment of catch limits for commercial whaling. They are part of our engagements with Japan— The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson, on a point of order? Senator Whish-Wilson: I have asked the same question twice, but I want to be very specific. I've asked whether this will be raised with Mr Abe directly on Friday. The PRESIDENT: That was part of your question— Senator Whish-Wilson: It's a very important opportunity to let— The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson, resume your seat! If your point of order was direct relevance, then please make that clear at the start of what you say. That was part of your question. Your question had a substantial lead-in. The minister is entitled to address any part of the question. Senator Payne. Senator Payne: Thank you very much, Mr President. In response, I would say I was absolutely directly relevant to Senator Whish-Wilson's question by talking about the engagement between Australia and Japan, regularly, on these matters of concern. Whether or not it's raised between the Prime Minister and Prime Minister Abe is a matter for them, but it is regularly raised between Australia and Japan.