Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Deputy Leader of The Nationals and Minister for Regional Services, Sport, Local Government and Decentralisation) (14:46): What absolute rubbish from Senator Cameron—absolute rubbish. I sit in the National Party party room; I'm deputy leader of the National Party party room. I also sit in cabinet. And I can tell you unequivocally, Senator Cameron—through you, Mr President—that the Nationals have not given up on an agricultural visa; we have not given up on ensuring that our farmers have the workforce they need to get the crop off, to harvest, to milk the cattle, to actually process meat through our abattoirs— The PRESIDENT: Senator Collins, on a point of order? Senator Jacinta Collins: Yes, on a point of order: the question is not whether the Nationals have given up. The question is: what reasons did Prime Minister Morrison give the Deputy Prime Minister for shutting down his proposal? The PRESIDENT: You've reminded the minister of the specific nature of the question. The minister's been speaking for just over 30 seconds. At this stage I consider the minister to be directly relevant to other parts of the question. I call upon her to continue. Senator McKENZIE: On the point of order, it just didn't happen, Senator Collins—just didn't happen. The Prime Minister made an announcement in South Australia over the weekend, which we welcome. It is actually ensuring that for those Australians who are looking for a job, who want to work, we have many, many roles available out in regional and agricultural regions and in our industries, and we look forward to welcoming them on farm to do this work. But we know that this won't be the single solution. We know this isn't the silver bullet and there is much more work to do. We've got the Seasonal Worker Program, which is filling significant gaps, and the Pacific workers scheme, which is also filling significant gaps. There are significant opportunities, I think, right throughout our region to have a win-win situation where those on Pacific islands can actually come and assist us with the great food task and support our farmers but also support their families at home. There's a lot of work we can do in ensuring that our farmers have the workforce and the skill levels they need to assist and get on with the food task. We're wanting to see agriculture grow from a $64 billion industry, as it is right now, to a $100 billion industry. That's going to take a lot of know-how, a lot of research and development, and a lot of workers. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, a supplementary question.