Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance and the Public Service, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:23): I thank the senator for his question. As responsibility for specialist disability services shifts from the states and territories to a national system through the NDIS, the Commonwealth government has established new, significant and comprehensive— Senator Steele-John: Point of order! The PRESIDENT: Point of order from Senator Steele-John. Senator Steele-John: The quality and safeguards framework only covers 10 per cent— The PRESIDENT: Senator Steele-John, please come to a point of order— Senator Steele-John: of the disability community. The PRESIDENT: Senator Steele-John! Are you raising a point of order or matter of debate? The PRESIDENT: Relevance, Mr President. The PRESIDENT: The minister has been speaking for 12 seconds. I am not a position to rule on relevance before he has completed a single sentence. Senator CORMANN: The coalition government takes the abuse and neglect of people with disability very seriously, and is engaging in real, immediate and substantial reform to improve the treatment of people with disability, including those in residential settings, most of whom will be eligible for the National Disability Insurance Scheme. There have already been multiple inquiries looking into issues of abuse and neglect of people with disability at both the federal and the state levels which have clearly identified the issues. As responsibility for specialist disability services shifts from the states and territories to a national system through the NDIS, the Commonwealth government has established new significant and comprehensive safeguards to prevent abuse and neglect of people with a disability under the NDIS. The Commonwealth has established the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission and continues to provide the National Disability— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cormann. Senator-Steele John on a point of order? Senator Steele-John: A point of order on relevance. The Quality and Safeguarding Framework does not cover— The PRESIDENT: Senator Steele-John, that is a point of debate. It is not a point of order with respect to relevance. With respect, I think the minister is being directly relevant to the question asked. Senator Steele-John: No, he's not, Mr President! The PRESIDENT: Really? Senator Steele-John: He is not! The PRESIDENT: Senator Steele-John, the minister, in my view, is being directly relevant. I can't control how he answers, I cannot direct how he answers, but I believe he's being directly relevant to the lengthy question that you asked and/or part of it. There is a time after question time for debating the matter of ministers' answers. Senator CORMANN: As I was saying, the Commonwealth has established the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission and continues to provide to the National Disability Abuse and Neglect Hotline. The royal commission to investigate the quality of care provided in residential and home based aged-care services announced by the Prime Minister yesterday will complement the action the government is already taking in the disability area, including for younger people with disability in residential aged-care facilities. The PRESIDENT: Senator Steele-John, a supplementary question.