Senator SCULLION (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Affairs and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:05): So, for the third time, Mr President—I know you heard me—I know anyone who's listening to this debate would know that I have said that is categorically wrong. There was an increase. And you can wave budget papers around all you like. There was a billion-dollar increase, not only in the first year, but an increase on that in the second— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Hinch, on a point of order. Senator Hinch: Mr President, I'm closer to Senator Scullion than you are and I can't hear him. The PRESIDENT: It's only 6½ minutes in to a week of question time, senators. If we could actually have the courtesy of allowing our colleagues to hear the answers. Senator Scullion, continuing his answer. Senator SCULLION: Year on year on year, it is a billion-dollar increase. That's a $5 billion increase to now from when we took the Treasury benches. It's as simple as that—$5 billion more, no matter how you cut it. I think Crikey referred to it as a 'bald-faced lie'. So if you want to get into the business of partisan politics about those people who have built this nation, you're welcome to that space all on your own. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Scullion. Senator Wong on a point of order. Senator Wong: I seek leave to table page 101 of the budget papers showing a $1.2 billion 'savings'—in the government's own words. You won't table your own budget paper. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, please resume your seat.