Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:56): I thank Senator Ketter for his question. I don't have details on the consultancies that may or may not have been engaged by the Great Barrier Reef Foundation. I am quite happy to take on notice and provide any further information, if there is some, about such a process. Of course, indeed, you would expect the foundation to be looking, in terms of their work, to make the best out of the generous funding that the Turnbull government is providing for the Great Barrier Reef to ensure they leverage that to the maximum possible extent. That's what we want them to do. We want them to use that funding to ensure that they attract even more private philanthropic contributions to support the reef, as they have done in the past. We also, of course, want them to deploy the funding, to complement all of the other work that we have undertaken over the last few years—work to improve water quality, work towards better management of the reef, work that has taken the reef off of the endangered list, work that has ensured that we have a reef with a much better management structure in place today than was the case when we took office. This is the next step in building on that work. We will not let up, as a government, in terms of our efforts to protect and preserve the Great Barrier Reef for future generations, to ensure that it gets the support that it deserves. I just find it remarkable that the Australian Labor Party would come in here and consistently wish to undermine the work of protecting the Great Barrier Reef. They are selling out the Great Barrier Reef. They seem to have no care— The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, please resume your seat. Senator Whish-Wilson, on a point of order? Senator Whish-Wilson: Point of order: the minister is misleading the chamber. Everybody knows that the foundation projects are bandaid projects that will not save the Great Barrier Reef. The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson. Please resume your seat. You know well that that is not a point of order. There is an opportunity to raise those matters after question time. Senator Birmingham. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Complementing work on water quality, on tackling crown-of-thorns starfish issues, on reef science matters—these are all things our government has proudly invested in, supported and tackled to date, and we want to make sure that that continues in the future. We will welcome every single private dollar that comes alongside those taxpayer dollars to get the best possible outcome for the Great Barrier Reef. Senator KETTER: Thank you very much and I look forward to the minister's response on that matter. If the foundation is an expert fundraiser, as the government has claimed, why does it need to employ a consultant to develop a fundraising plan?