Senator KENEALLY (New South Wales) (14:48): The private foundation itself says on its website that it has raised $57 million from corporate and private philanthropy. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator KENEALLY: So which is correct, the private foundation's figure or one of Minister Frydenberg's five figures? And is this the level of due diligence the government considers appropriate— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator KENEALLY: for a grant of almost half a billion dollars? The PRESIDENT: There were interjections on both sides during that question. I will remind senators of my request to hear questions in silence.