Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Finance, Special Minister of State and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (15:02): I can't believe that Senator Watt would be so silly as to ask me about a holiday up near the Great Barrier Reef with mates, because it was none other than Mr Shorten who went on a holiday to the reef with a mate—although he is no longer a mate, apparently. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: The point of order is direct relevance. I understand that the finance minister of this country is having difficulty explaining the logic and probity of a $444 million grant, but that is what the question is about. It is not about Mr Shorten or dishing a bit more dirt; it is about nearly half a billion dollars' worth of taxpayers' money that they are accountable for. There is a legitimate public interest in the question being answered. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann, on the point of order. Senator Cormann: On the point of order: firstly, I addressed the legitimate point of public interest, but the question, as I heard it, related to holidays with mates up in a particular part of Australia, and I am responding to 'holidays with mates'. Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: The minister had been speaking for 14 seconds. I consider him to be relevant to the question in answering it, particularly given that he had only been speaking for 14 seconds. Senator CORMANN: Thank you very much, Mr President. We make no apologies for the fact that we seek to leverage additional private sector investment into the future health of the Great Barrier Reef. That does involve engaging with business—and, of course, Mr Shorten, does that quite happily. He went up there with Mr Cousins, except Mr Cousins is no longer a mate. He's now accusing Mr Shorten of dancing around the truth and he's attacking him for having turned on commitments that he had made to him in the past. So you have absolutely no credibility when it comes to the Great Barrier Reef. The Labor Party has absolutely no credibility. First, you provide a grant to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation and then you vote for this one and now, just because the politics suit your strategy and your tactics on the day, you're just—you're pathetic. (Time expired) Senator Wong interjecting— Senator Cormann: I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.