Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Finance, Special Minister of State and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:13): Firstly, I completely and utterly reject the premise of the question. Secondly, what I would like to confirm is that part of the question which relates to proper policy debate inside the Liberal-National Party party room. That's what we do in our party room: we talk about policy. Perhaps they're all a bunch of robots inside the Labor Party, who get programmed as they walk in and somebody presses the button and they all have the same view. That is the socialist model, I guess. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, a point of order? Senator Cameron: Thank you. It's on relevance. The question was: when Mr Abbott said the Prime Minister's explanation sounds like merchant banker gobbledegook, was he correct? The PRESIDENT: I didn't hear that, but it was a rather lengthy question and I consider the minister to be directly relevant to part of it, as he's entitled to be. Senator CORMANN: I'm very happy to confirm that, in the Liberal-National party room, we talk policy. We genuinely assess the issues. We make judgements on the best way forward and, unlike inside the Labor Party, we're not a bunch of robots who come at issues, all with the same view to start off with. The party room has made a decision. We support the National Energy Guarantee and we will seek to implement it as soon as possible in order to bring down electricity prices. (Time expired)