Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Finance, Special Minister of State and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:11): What I would say to my good friend and valued colleague the senator from the great state of Victoria is, don't believe everything you read in the newspaper. The other thing I would say is that, unlike the Labor Party, the coalition is a vibrant party where we're having policy debate about how we can best ensure that we continue to bring down electricity prices and that we continue to improve energy reliability across Australia, because that is important for families and it is important for business. It's important for our competitiveness as an economy moving forward. That is in sharp contrast with the way the Labor leader, Mr Shorten, approaches these things. He's so scared of his own caucus, he's not even prepared to take a plan for higher taxes on business to his caucus. In the last few days we've found out why, because one Labor member and senator after the other is popping out and speaking out against him. We've got the member for Bass— The PRESIDENT: Order. Senator Wong on a point of order. Senator Abetz interjecting— Senator Wong: I'm rarely cheered by Senator Abetz, so I'll take the cheering! My point of order is on direct relevance. It's all very interesting, but the minister was actually asked to confirm whether or not— A government senator interjecting— Senator Wong: I'm happy to take the interjection. You simply talked about newspapers; we just asked you to confirm or otherwise. That was the only question. The PRESIDENT: The minister has two seconds left on the clock, if he'd like to continue his answer. Senator CORMANN: Bill Shorten is a socialist who stands for higher taxes. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cormann. I'm taking a point of order from Senator Wong. Senator Wong: That really was a deliberate flouting of the standing orders. I'd ask you to— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, the minister did not complete his sentence before I called him to order. I called him to order instantly. I call Senator Marshall for his final supplementary question.