Senator O'NEILL (New South Wales) (14:42): My question is to the Minister for Communications, Senator Fifield. In his first speech to the Senate, Assistant Minister McGrath, the former deputy federal director of the Liberal Party, said, 'The ABC should be sold.' Does the minister agree with Assistant Minister McGrath? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I'll call the minister when there's order in the chamber. On my right and left—order!