Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Jobs and Innovation) (14:53): I again thank Senator Cameron for what must be about the hundredth question, I think, in relation to this matter. Senator Cameron, as I have stated, everything that I have to say is clearly set out on the Hansard record. You also know that the question is not able to be answered because of the AFP investigation. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: I'm not sure if that is a PII claim or something. We're not asking about any matter that is canvassed in an interview; we're simply asking whether or not an interview has occurred. Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— Senator Wong: I have no idea why she's refusing to answer the question, Senator Macdonald. If you'd like to add to it, we're happy to give you leave to do so. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, the minister hadn't been speaking for 19 seconds. I consider that what she was saying was directly relevant to the question. I can't instruct the minister on how to answer a question. I call the minister. Senator CASH: As I was saying, the only person with questions to answer in relation to this is actually Bill Shorten, because this is all about whether or not moneys provided by Bill Shorten when he was the head of the AWU were properly authorised. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Wong: The question was: has the minister been interviewed by the AFP? I'm not surprised you want to sit down, Minister. The PRESIDENT: The minister has concluded her answer. Senator Cameron, a supplementary question.