Senator DI NATALE (Victoria—Leader of the Australian Greens) (16:15): I seek leave to make a short statement. The PRESIDENT: Leave is granted for one minute. Senator DI NATALE: The Australian Greens will not be supporting Senator Anning's motion. Senator Anning says that people have fought in wars to protect the flag. People fight in wars to preserve the rights we have in our democracy—that's what those wars are fought over. Those rights include the right of people to engage in peaceful protest, and, for some people, that may involve burning the flag, an action that should not be criminalised. For many people, the flag symbolises years of oppression. That's particularly true for First Nations people. In fact, Victorian Greens MP Lydia Thorpe, the first Aboriginal woman in the Victorian parliament, has stated that the Australian flag doesn't represent her. Many First Nations people see it as an ongoing symbol of oppression and genocide. How about having a genuine debate? Let's change the date we celebrate Australia Day, and let's change the flag while we're at it. The PRESIDENT: To clarify: in the first instance I will be putting clause (a) of motion 776, following a request from a government senator. So the question is that clause (a) of motion 776 be agreed to. Question agreed to. The PRESIDENT: I will now put clauses (b) and (d). Clause (d) has now been renamed as clause (c), because clause (c) as printed has been deleted. The question is that clause (b) and the new clause (c), formerly clause (d), of motion 776 be agreed to. Question negatived.