Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS (New South Wales—Minister for International Development and the Pacific) (14:59): The person who's attacking pensioners is Bill Shorten. Don't come in here with a holier-than-thou attitude when your leader has been out there attacking pensioners for the last week. It's their money, and you're going out there and taking it away from them. But then, of course, you have absolutely no respect whatsoever for people who have worked hard in this country to save for their retirement. Lots of self-funded retirees have worked very, very hard, and now you are coming along and you are going to take away that money from them. Don't come in here and accuse us of having a go at pensioners, because you are the biggest enemy to the pensioners of Australia. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS: Of course, there you go, you go off, and what's it going to be next? What are you going to come up with next? Negative gearing on the family home? Death duties on the family home? What else are you cooking up? If it's pensioners one day, who else will it be tomorrow?