Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training) (14:39): I thank Senator Hinch for his question. Senator Hinch is correct that the Turnbull government did pass through the parliament legislation that has provided for Australians living overseas to repay their HECS-HELP or their HELP loans at equivalent standards and rates to Australians who are living and working in Australia. Senator Hinch has asked precisely how much has been repaid to date. I'll have to take that question on notice, Senator Hinch. I don't have those figures to hand, but I will happily provide an estimate to you in the chamber. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hinch, a supplementary question?