Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:15): Senator Carr, in fact the Prime Minister is listening to all of those stakeholder groups and others as well, because we are going to announce an evidence based— Senator Kim Carr interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! You've asked your question, Senator Carr. Senator BRANDIS: economically sensible suite of policies that, as I said to you before, are focused on two objectives: to make electricity as affordable as it can be and to make supply as reliable as it can be. As I said a moment ago, we certainly won't be taking lectures from you, Senator Carr, or your colleagues, who presided over the fastest increase in electricity prices in modern history—who, in the state of South Australia, with their ideological obsession with a 50 per cent renewables target, couldn't even keep the lights on. What an indictment. In a modern, 21st century economy, you couldn't even keep the lights on, because of your obsession with ideology.