Senator KIM CARR (Victoria) (14:11): My question is to the minister representing the Prime Minister, Senator Brandis. The outgoing BlueScope CEO, Mr Paul O'Malley, last week told his company's AGM that BlueScope's electricity costs would rise by 93 per cent between 2016 and 2018. Can the minister confirm that, after four years of Liberal-National government, power prices have never been higher? Senator Cormann: They'd be higher with a carbon tax!