Senator JACINTA COLLINS (Victoria) (15:02): The government's own figures show that childcare fees are set to keep rising at over five per cent a year, with an average family with two children set to face fee increases of over $2,500 a year. Can the minister confirm that, under his changes, the cost to government will be capped but there will be no limit on the increasing out-of-pocket costs faced by parents? (Time expired)