Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training) (15:00): I thank Senator Collins for her question. I am happy to reflect on a few parts of that question. Firstly, in relation to the Facebook survey conducted by The Parenthood, it is a survey that is of questionable means. I note that the person out there commenting on it on the weekend is none other than a former Labor Party candidate, so it is clearly, of course, a credible, impartial survey that Senator Collins is citing! Nonetheless, in relation to childcare costs, the Turnbull government is incredibly proud to have legislated, through this parliament, reforms to childcare and early-education payments that are going to ensure the hardest working, lowest income Australians receive a significant boost in relation to childcare support in the future. And do you know what, Mr President? When we put those reforms through this parliament earlier this year, Senator Collins and all of her colleagues voted against them! That's what happened. Senator Wong: Mr President, a point of order on direct relevance. There is one question: can the minister confirm that out-of-pocket childcare costs have risen every year under the Abbott-Turnbull government? The PRESIDENT: That is correct, and I will remind the minister of the question that has been asked. Senator BIRMINGHAM: I am happy to confirm that this government has been concerned about childcare costs, which is why we have taken action. We have legislated reforms, which will come into effect on 2 July next year, that will deliver real relief to Australian parents. They will abolish, for all low- and middle-income Australian families, the current cap in relation to childcare fees and provide a significant increase for low-income families, from around 72 per cent to around 85 per cent support for their childcare fees. Our assistance is going to ensure, for example, that a family earning just $60,000 a year would be significantly better off in terms of the support they receive for their childcare assistance. Families right across low- and middle-income spectrums will receive more support in terms of what is subsidised as a result of the Turnbull government's reforms, as against those opposite, who did nothing when in power and have voted against the reforms that we have brought forward. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Collins, a supplementary question.