Senator KIM CARR (Victoria) (14:06): My question is to Senator Brandis, the Minister representing the Prime Minister. Yesterday the minister told the Senate how entranced he was by Minister Frydenberg's presentation on the energy crisis to the coalition party room. The presentation slide headed 'Gas prices are pushing up electricity prices' says, 'Every dollar/gigajoule increase in gas prices leads to an increase of around $10/megawatt-hours in the cost of gas-fired electricity generation.' Given you were so entranced by this presentation, can you explain to the Senate what this means for Australian industry?