Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:31): The first point I would make is: look at our track record. Unlike the former Labor government, which did not commit to a single ship on their watch, we committed to a record naval shipbuilding program, and Australian naval ships of course will be built using Australian steel. We have also committed to building the Adelaide to Tarcoola rail upgrade using Australian steel. You would also be aware of the very exciting announcement by Adani that Adani proposes to use Australian steel. In relation to the specific question that Senator Xenophon has asked me: obviously, the first step is that we have got to receive proposals. When these proposals are received, relevant judgements are made. The PRESIDENT: Order! A point of order, Senator Xenophon? Senator Xenophon: There was a direct question asked: will Australian steel be used in these taxpayer-funded projects? The PRESIDENT: And I think you asked the minister to guarantee whether that would be used, and the minister indicated by a case example where Australian steel is being used, and I think the minister was just actually getting directly to your point when you raised the point of order. Minister. Senator CORMANN: Thank you very much. The specific answer is: obviously, these judgements are made when proposals are received but, if you look at our track record, we have got a very good track record, unlike those opposite. The PRESIDENT: Senator Xenophon, a final supplementary question.