Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training) (14:18): I thank Senator Gallagher for her question. In relation to the ACT, I trust that, as a former Chief Minister of the ACT, Senator Gallagher would welcome, firstly, the decision of the Turnbull government to treat all states and territories fairly and equitably in reaching the same 20 per cent share of the schooling resource standard based on the Gonski level of need. That will see support for additional funding into the ACT government sector estimated at 5.9 per cent per student over the next four years. This is very strong growth in support for the ACT government sector that Senator Gallagher used to, of course, be the Chief Minister overseeing. I trust that she endorses that, welcomes that—and, of course, what we see there— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. A point of order, Senator Wong? Senator Wong: My point of order is relevance. Whilst I am very happy for my colleague's previous career to be extolled in the way that the minister is doing, he was asked only one question. He was asked, in relation to Senator Seselja's quote that the package would have 'some pretty negative consequences', whether or not his colleague sitting behind him is correct. That is the only question. Have the guts to answer it. The PRESIDENT: Minister, I will remind you of the question. Minister, you have a minute and 13 seconds. Senator BIRMINGHAM: As I was pointing out, in relation specifically to the ACT, to which Senator Gallagher's question pertained, we see strong growth in additional resourcing going into ACT schools. Because of legacy arrangements that were put in place, there has been a different approach in relation to systemic school calculations in the ACT. That different approach has seen SES scores averaged not on the basis of schools in the ACT or the ACT population but on the basis of the national Australian population. So that creates a different change when we are treating everybody equitably in the ACT compared to the circumstances elsewhere. Senator Seselja has absolutely made strong representations on behalf of his constituents, as I would expect him to do, and we are talking constructively through those issues as they relate to the ACT. But it should not be ignored by Senator Gallagher or by anybody else that the reality— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Cameron, a point of order? Senator Cameron: Again, it is on relevance. You did draw the minister's attention to the question and the question is clear: does the minister agree with the comments that were made by Senator Seselja? He has not gone to that issue. The PRESIDENT: After the first point of order was raised by Senator Wong, the minister did move directly to the point in relation to Senator Seselja's comments and the minister was answering the question. Senator BIRMINGHAM: As I was saying, it should not be ignored by Senator Gallagher or anybody else that there is strong funding growth across the ACT into education, that we will make sure we work with each of the systems involved. But I would trust the former Chief Minister in particular would welcome the additional investment into the ACT government schools. The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallagher, a supplementary question?