Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training) (14:10): No, Mr White is not correct. As I indicated, across the New South Wales Catholic school system, our model will deliver 3.8 per cent growth per student. It will also, though—if you want to talk about the government school system, Senator Farrell—deliver 4.9 per cent growth per student. Senator Jacinta Collins interjecting— Senator BIRMINGHAM: Senator Collins interjects with the question of how long. I am pleased to tell Senator Collins that, over the decade, the projection in the Catholic schools system in New South Wales is growth of 3.6 per cent per student— Senator Jacinta Collins: No, 3.8 per cent for all states. Senator BIRMINGHAM: It is 3.6 per cent per student, Senator Collins, specific to New South Wales, and, for the government sector in New South Wales over the decade, it is growth of 4.8 per cent per student. This is strong growth across every schooling sector—Catholic, independent and government—above inflation, above wages, enabling real additional investment to support Australian students who need it. The PRESIDENT: Senator Farrell, a final supplementary question.