Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Employment and Minister for Women) (14:36): Because, if you truly represent the members of your union, you should have nothing to hide from them. The question, therefore, needs to be asked in relation to the 40 payments from the Visy company to the AWU: why were they made? If they were legitimate, why have they not been disclosed? A legitimate payment is something that is there for all to see. One has to wonder why Mr Shorten has never disclosed the reason that the Visy company made 40 payments to his union of $191,399.44. It is a simple question, colleagues. Why was money given by the company to the union in the course of negotiating enterprise agreements? The PRESIDENT: Senator Duniam on a further supplementary question. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! I need to hear the question.