Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:33): Senator Kitching, and returning to Mr Dreyfus, who asked this question of Mr Turnbull yesterday— The PRESIDENT: Order! Point of order, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: Mr President, do I even need to explain it? He is flouting the standing orders. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, I think the nature of the question is bordering on not even being relevant. I have allowed it to happen. If you are raising points of order about relevance, Senator Brandis has been addressing the question, considering the nature of the question, I think quite well. Senator Wong: I seek your indication, Mr President, of how a question about the Prime Minister's actions in relation to Mr Downer has anything to do with Mr Dreyfus. The PRESIDENT: I will allow the Attorney-General to answer the question, in the frame it has been asked of him, as he wishes. Senator Brandis. Senator BRANDIS: If I may say so, Mr President, I am being directly relevant to the Prime Minister's answer, because, in the Prime Minister's answer, he pointed out the morbid and unhealthy and—to use Senator Fifield's words—slightly icky obsession that Mr Dreyfus appears to have with me. But, of course, it is not just with me that Mr Dreyfus has an obsession, Senator Kitching. Mr Dreyfus has threatened to resign from the parliament if Senator Kitching were to be appointed to the Senate. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, point of order. Senator Wong: Mr President, you ought not allow him to flout the standing orders in this way. If he wants to give a speech about these matters, he is entitled to do so. We will deal with that. This is question time, Mr President. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, it is question time. I adjudicate on the information before me. Senator Brandis has indicated that the Prime Minister's answer contained exactly the information that he is reporting to the Senate, and that is what the question inquired about. The question inquired about the Prime Minister's answer. The Attorney-General is completely relevant in relation to this question. Attorney-General. Senator BRANDIS: Thank you, Mr President. If you ask an open-ended question, you must expect the answer that you get. Mr Dreyfus is not just obsessed with me, Senator Kitching; he is obsessed with you. Why otherwise did he say that he would resign if you were appointed to the Senate? We are waiting to see Mr Dreyfus come good on his threat. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: A final supplementary question, Senator Kitching.