Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:29): I have actually seen the Prime Minister's answer. I found it quite flattering, actually, Senator Kitching. But I think the point that the Prime Minister was at pains to make is the extraordinary obsession the shadow Attorney-General, Mr Dreyfus, has with me. Senator Kitching, this is the point of the Prime Minister's answer. Senator Dreyfus, I am sorry to say, Senator Kitching, has developed a very, very unfortunate reputation around this place in the last year or two as the man who cried wolf, because every time Senator Dreyfus has mounted a political attack on me it has fallen flat. Do you know why it has fallen flat, Senator Kitching? Do you know why it has fallen flat? The PRESIDENT: Point of order, Senator Gallacher. Senator Gallacher: My point of order is that Senator Brandis should refer to people in the other place by their correct title. The PRESIDENT: I know. I did note he promoted him to senator, but he's not a senator; he is Mr Dreyfus. Senator Kitching, on the point of order. Senator Kitching: On the point of order, I hate to keep pointing out the Attorney's lack of knowledge of the standing orders, but, under standing order 193, I do not think he can refer to the shadow Attorney-General in the way he just has. I refer particularly to sub order 3. The PRESIDENT: And, that is, reflecting on a member in the other place. I will remind all senators to refer to members in the other place by their correct title and also not to reflect adversely on members of the other place. The Attorney-General has the call. Senator BRANDIS: Mr President, I do owe the Senate an apology in referring to Mr Mark Dreyfus as a senator. I am sure every senator would be embarrassed by that misattribution. Senator Kitching, the reason everyone of Mr Mark Dreyfus's political attacks on me have fallen flat is the absence of one essential ingredient, and that is relevant facts or evidence. That is the problem. The PRESIDENT: Order! Pause the clock. A point of order, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: Unsurprisingly on relevance. The question was why the Prime Minister refused to rule out appointing Senator Brandis to a diplomatic or judicial post before the next election. The PRESIDENT: I think the Attorney-General has been on track in relation to the question with the answer he is providing. Attorney-General. Senator BRANDIS: Thank you, Mr President. I was asked about the Prime Minister's answer and I was referring to it directly. So, Senator Kitching, if you are going to mount a political attack on somebody, you ought to make sure you have the evidence. We know that the Hayden royal commission had plenty of evidence about you, Senator Kitching. We know the Hayden royal commission had enough evidence about you, Senator Kitching, to refer not one, not two but in 11 criminal prosecutions to the police or the Fair Work Authority. But, nevertheless, in relation to what Mr Dreyfus has said about me from time to time, it would strengthen his hand if he had any relevant facts. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Kitching, a supplementary question.