Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training) (14:56): I will take that on notice and provide the senator with the exact qualifications that are in question here. Senator Cameron: You're the minister! Senator BIRMINGHAM: I will happily provide the senator with the exact qualifications. These are students who are being enrolled to received qualifications. They will be accredited qualifications under the Australian qualifications framework, as anybody would expect from a registered training organisation such as that being funded. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. A point or order, Senator Cameron? Senator Cameron: Yes, thanks. The key question was: will the students be eligible to receive a trade certificate? Fundamentally that is the question and that is what the minister should answer. The PRESIDENT: The minister did say up-front that he will take on notice the exact qualification and get back to you. The minister has clearly answered his question with responsibility. Minister, have you concluded your answer? Senator BIRMINGHAM: Yes. The PRESIDENT: A final supplementary question, Senator Cameron.