Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Employment and Minister for Women) (14:34): Unlike those on the other side who sit here and insult volunteers in Victoria who would do anything for their state, we on this side— The PRESIDENT: Order! Pause the clock. Senator Cameron: A point of order: the minister should withdraw. There has been not one insult against any volunteer in Victoria from this side, and the minister should withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cameron. The minister did not directly refer to any senator on your side in an unparliamentary way. Senator CASH: Thank you, Mr President. I refer to Don. Don is a veteran volunteer firefighter of over 50 years. For 50 years he has served the people of Victoria, and this is what he had to say: We just don't want to be interfered with - we are volunteers … That is what we on this side of the chamber are going to side with—the people like Don who have stood up for 50 years and served the people of Victoria. Obviously, the Leader of the Opposition, Bill Shorten, a Victorian MP—where is he in relation to this issue? He did not even go to Victoria during the election campaign, because he did not want to front the 60,000 volunteers and tell them— The PRESIDENT: Order! Pause the clock. A point of order, Senator Cameron. Senator Cameron: Mr President, the question to the minister was about impact. I have actually read the agreement. I would like the minister to actually deal with this question and go to the clauses that supposedly impact the volunteers. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cameron. That is a debating point, Senator Cameron. There is no point of order. Senator CASH: Mr President, CFA volunteers do not hesitate to support Victoria and Victorians in their hour of need. This parliament now needs to do the same for them.