Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance, Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate and Special Minister of State) (14:56): I have had to look at the worst finance minister in the history of the Commonwealth for six years—first from that side of the chamber and now from this side of the chamber—and I hope that I can keep looking at her for another three years from this side of the chamber. What I would say to Senator Conroy is that the premise of his question is entirely false. We got rid of Labor's carbon tax. We got rid of Labor's mining tax. We reduced taxes for small business in last year's budget. Again in this year's budget we have actually brought the overall tax burden in the economy down as a result of decisions taken by the government. So taxes as a share of GDP now are lower than they would have been under Labor. Under Labor, we were on a trajectory of higher taxes than we have embraced now. You do not understand the medium-term effect of your disastrous policy decisions. You do not understand that your carbon tax and your mining tax had a bad impact on our economy, investment and growth for much longer than your disastrous period in government. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Cormann, could you resume your seat. Senator Heffernan, do you have a point of order? Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong. Do you have a point of order, Senator Heffernan? Senator Heffernan: I do. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Heffernan: Can you shut up for a minute! My point of order is that in my view—and I think it would be the view of anyone in the public—this chamber is out of order. To think that the crap that is going on here now is being put on by people who are supposed to be running the bloody country! The PRESIDENT: You have no point of order, Senator Heffernan. Minister, you have 11 seconds remaining in which to conclude your answer. Senator CORMANN: The people of Australia know that Labor does not know how to manage money, they know that Labor has made a mess of the budget and the economy, and they know that the coalition government always has to fix the mess that Labor leaves behind—and that is what we are doing.