Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance, Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate and Special Minister of State) (14:03): If Senator Wong had actually listened to my answer, she would know I pointed out very clearly that it would be costing $2.7 billion over the forward estimates. It will permanently increase the size of the economy by one per cent, which will help us to generate stronger job creation—more jobs—and over time will help us increase real wages and improve living standards across Australia. This is exactly what the Australian people are looking for. It is a central part of our plan for jobs and growth. It is a central part of— Senator Moore: Mr President, I again rise on a point of order on direct relevance. What is the cost over 10 years? It is a specific question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Moore. It is my job to adjudicate as to whether the minister is being directly relevant. I cannot direct the minister how to answer the question. The minister is on topic. The minister is talking about costs in relation to the costs over the forward estimates. I call the minister. Senator CORMANN: The cost of this measure—reflected in the budget paper in the usual way, over the four-year forward estimates period—is $2.7 billion. It is costed, it is fully funded and, indeed, as to the effect of policy decisions on the budget bottom line, it is an improvement of $1.7 billion over the forward estimates.