Senator NASH (New South Wales—Minister for Rural Health, Minister for Regional Development, Minister for Regional Communications and Deputy Leader of The Nationals) (14:56): As I was indicating to those opposite about the changes that we have made moving to the PHN rollout, this will be phased into the PHN rollout and there will be no cuts. Those opposite should stop scaremongering, and perhaps start focusing on developing some decent policy for this country, which clearly they are unable to do. When we look historically at those on the other side it is rolled out today in their incapacity to do anything properly. We have just seen a $19.5 billion black hole from those opposite, which was apparently a 'rounding error'. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Wong: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on direct relevance. The minister was asked about a centre that opened in March and is due to close in June. Is that correct or not? The PRESIDENT: The minister did respond by saying that there would be no cuts. I distinctly heard her say that. Senator NASH: I said, 'The program has not been abolished, there are no cuts and the funding will roll into the PHN rollout.'