Senator McEWEN (South Australia—Opposition Whip in the Senate) (14:33): Mr President, I ask a final supplementary question. When asked by Laurie Oakes on the Sunday Today show to explain the submarine deal, the Treasurer admitted: This bid we have entered into a negotiation on … So it is a negotiation now? Minister, hasn't the Treasurer belled the cat? Will the minister now admit that the government's promise of 12 submarines built in Australia with Australian steel are actually, as the Treasury has admitted, up for negotiation?