Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:17): Senator Cameron, the only political party which has announced a policy of changes in that area as well has been the Australian Labor Party—the Australian Labor Party. And, as a result of the policies which you have announced, what we face— Senator Cameron: Mr President, I rise on a point of order, again on relevance. I can understand why the coalition cannot answer a question on tax policy— The PRESIDENT: To your point of order. Senator Cameron: because they do not have one. The PRESIDENT: To your point of order, Senator Cameron. Senator Cameron: The point of order is clear. I simply asked: were superannuation tax concessions still on the table and part of the government's tax policy process? Senator Bernardi: Mr President, on the point of order: this is not a point of order. This is a debating point and you should have sat him down. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Bernardi. In relation to the point of order, the Attorney-General did answer the question directly by saying that the only party, which would by inference exclude the Liberal Party, that has a change— Senator Wong interjecting— Senator Cameron interjecting— The PRESIDENT: That is exactly what he said. That would exclude the government from having a change of policy. So the Attorney-General has been completely directly relevant. Senator BRANDIS: The only political party that is going to the next election with a policy to increase taxes and, in one particular respect—because of your negative gearing policy—to crash the value of the principal asset of most Australians by taking a third of the buyers out of the market is the Australian Labor Party. What you do not seem to understand, Senator Cameron, is that it is possible to have— Senator Cameron: Mr President, on a point of order, again on relevance— The PRESIDENT: I am sorry, Senator Cameron. The minister has been relevant to the question. There is no point of order. Senator Cameron: Well, you have not heard— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, there is no point of order. Resume your seat. Senator Cameron interjecting— The PRESIDENT: You said 'direct relevance', and the minister has been directly relevant. Senator Wong: Mr President, on the point of order: given your ruling, I draw your attention to the fact that the content of the supplementary question is superannuation, not negative gearing. The PRESIDENT: But a minister can enhance their answers, as they have done forever in this chamber and all the time I have been here. The minister answered the question directly. There is no point of order. Senator BRANDIS: You do not seem to be able to come to terms, Senator Cameron, with the fact that one side of politics in this country is able to have a mature, grown-up debate about tax policy without playing foolish rule in, rule out games— (Time expired) Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, I rise on a point of order: I am sitting close to Senator Brandis, but I can hardly hear him because leader of the opposition keeps shouting consistently and constantly. I cannot hear. Please, Mr President, would you bring her to order. Senator Cameron: Go to Australian Hearing before they close it down! The PRESIDENT: Could I remind all senators of the need to be silent during the questions and the answers. That is all senators, on both sides. Senator Cameron interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Including you, Senator Cameron.