Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Defence) (14:26): I assume that, as a former finance minister, Senator Wong is familiar with the processes of engaging in things like competitive evaluation processes and tenders. For example, it seems to me that when Prime Minister Rudd, defence minister Smith, industry minister Combet and defence materiel minister Kelly announced the then Labor government's initiative on supply ships and said, and I quote— Senator Moore: Mr President— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Moore: I rise on a point of order on direct relevance to the particular question asked by Senator Wong, which was about the misleading ad on South Australian radio and about the aspect of 'completely international build'. The minister has not come close to that aspect. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong did ask about how the minister can justify the ads that are running in South Australia. I have been listening to the minister's answer and I am waiting for the minister. Minister, you have 35 seconds. Senator PAYNE: Thank you very much, Mr President. Let me finish my quote from the Labor ministers: The Government will at the earliest opportunity replace Australia's supply ships HMAS Success and HMAS Sirius. Senator Wong: Mr President— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Wong: I rise on a point of order as to direct relevance. The question was about this minister's own white paper—the fact that it leaves open a completely international build, which is entirely inconsistent with the misleading ad the Liberal Party is running in South Australia. She should answer the question, Mr President. The PRESIDENT: Thank you for your point of order. I remind the minister again of the question. Minister, you have 29 seconds in which to answer. Senator PAYNE: Thank you: This will include examination of options for local, hybrid and overseas build or the leasing of an existing vessel. As the senator knows, I said last week that there were three options contained in the CEP, which is a matter of public record: an overseas build, a hybrid build and a domestic build. But no matter what the build is, the difference between us and them is the number of jobs that will be created in shipbuilding in this country; the difference between us and them is zero over there and thousands over here. (Time expired)