Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:27): I do not know whether I had a memory lapse, but I am not sure I referred to carbon farming in my answer. Senator Milne: It is in your Direct Action bill! The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Milne, you have asked your question. Senator ABETZ: Oh, as part of the Direct Action Plan, right. What I was talking about was the Direct Action Plan. The Direct Action Plan will deliver— Senator Milne interjecting— Senator ABETZ: Senator Milne either does not want to hear an answer or just keeps interjecting because she is so knowledgeable on all matters. She did ask a question and, if she wants an answer, I am happy to oblige. The situation is that we believe the Direct Action Plan will deliver the five per cent reduction to which we are committed. I am not going to get into a game as to how much of that percentage will be delivered by each individual component of that plan, but we believe that the totality of the plan will deliver the totality of the five per cent to which we are committed.